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Mark Zuckerberg criticizes Apple in Joe Rogan's interview: 'They haven't invented anything great for a long time.'

11/01/2025 04:41:54
Mark Zuckerberg participated in a Joe Rogan Experience podcast, discussing Facebook, Instagram, Threads, Apple, and Vision Pro. He implemented new guidelines for demhumanizing content on these platforms. Zuckerberg expressed optimism about Apple's potential downfall due to lack of innovation and concern over their intelligent Ray-Ban glasses. He criticized iMessage's use of blue bubbles, suggesting it makes children feel embarrassed. During the interview, they discussed RCS encryption for iPhone users, with Apple stating that the Universal RCS Profile does not support encryption and is working on improving security instead. Zuckerberg expressed disappointment with Vision Pro's price and stated that Meta has been following Apple's spatial computing paradigms but believes Quest to be a better product. The article concludes with a list of favorite iPhone accessories.
Mark Zuckerberg criticizes Apple in Joe Rogan's interview: 'They haven't invented anything great for a long time.'

The CEO of Meta, Mark Zuckerberg, participated in today's Joe Rogan Experience podcast discussing various topics including Facebook, Instagram, Threads, Apple, and Vision Pro.

Facebook, Instagram, and Threads

Zuckerberg has been working intensively this week implementing new guidelines for demhumanizing content on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. He was pleasantly surprised to find time in his schedule to meet with Rogan for a three-hour interview.

Apple

Zuckerberg expressed optimism that Apple will be "defeated by someone" someday because they have stopped being at the right level in terms of not releasing new innovations. He also mentioned his concern about Apple potentially releasing their version of Meta's intelligent Ray-Ban glasses, which would provide a significant advantage due to better integration with the iPhone.

iMessage

The conversation also touched on iMessage and how Apple uses blue bubbles as a way to "insult" children. Zuckerberg suggested that this approach makes children feel embarrassed if they don't have a blue bubble, which he believes is not trendy and places them in an out-of-fashion group.

RCS

During the interview, Rogan and Zuckerberg discussed RCS (Rich Communication Services) and whether it was encrypted for iPhone users. Apple had added support for RCS as part of iOS 18 last year. The response from Apple was that the Universal RCS Profile, currently published by the GSMA, does not support encryption. Instead, Apple is working with the GSMA to improve the security and encryption of RCS messages rather than building its own end-to-end encrypted flavor.

Vision Pro

Zuckerberg expressed his disappointment with the Vision Pro, stating that it costs $3500, which he believes is worse than a product costing $300 or $400. He mentioned that Meta has been closely following Apple's spatial computing paradigms and has released updates to manual tracking, gestures, spatial video support, and more. Despite this influence, Zuckerberg still believes that the Quest is a better product.

My iPhone Accessories

The article concludes with a list of the author's favorite iPhone accessories:

  • USB-C to USB-C cable with LED display
  • Belkin 3-in-1 MagSafe charging stand
  • 165W 4-port USB-C charger
  • Bluetooth Audio case

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